Robert E. Lee (HK-758 and HK-773)

#1 · September 23, 2011, 8:37 pm

Please see my post under HK-278 regard the so called dollars relating to Ulysses S. Grant. Attached are my photos related to Robert E. Lee, including medals honoring his birth (HK-773/4) in Stratford Estate, VA (born 1807), and his death in 1870 (statue unveiled in his honor in New Orleans, LA in 1883). Does anyone have other medals honoring Lee that they would be willing to post?

#2 · May 19, 2017, 10:48 pm

Interesting to see that the city of New Orleans removed 4 civil war memorials, including the statue of Robert E Lee (HK-758) today (19 May 2017) as people do not want to memorialize the perception of preservation of slavery/hatred. I guess HK-758 may all that will be left to the memory of that statue and memorial.

#3 · September 5, 2019, 3:19 pm

Attached are pictures of my HK-774A graded MS 66 by NGC. There are only (5) of this type listed in the NGC census, with this example being the Top Pop for the type as of 9/2019.

This type of the Robert E. Lee medal is incredibly tough to find compared to HK-773 and HK-774. This type has the Washington and Lee University reverse. Robert E. Lee was the president of this university from 1865-1870 after the Civil War.

There have been none of this type sold by the major auction companies to date.

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#4 · May 31, 2024, 5:36 pm

Quote from Pioneer on May 31, 2024, 5:36 pm
Lincoln was elected Republican President in 1860. The Republicans controlled this office from 1860 to 1884 when Grover Cleveland ended the Republican dynasty by getting elected President in 1885. This was all made possible by the GAR (Grand Army of the Republic) which was the Union Army Veterans National organization and it was in de facto Republican Party all those years. There were many independent Confederate Veterans groups talking about how they needed a National Group heading them all up like the Union Veterans had in the GAR.

Nothing happened until April 9,1884.

The Stonewall Token:

After years of talk the Confederate Veterans Groups throughout the South called for a organizational meeting in Portsmouth VA to form, write up a Charter for and Incorporation and By-Laws and elect officers. They called for this meeting to take place April 9,1884.

They chose their National Organization to be named "Portsmouth & Norfolk Co Association of Confederate Veterans" On July 16,1884 (unknown why this exact name was chosen). The Association chose the permanent name of “Stonewall Camp Confederate Veterans of Portsmouth VA." They also had a dedication celebration the same day and HENCE the medal.

Bust on medal obverse: General Stonewall Jackson (Thomas J) Nickname earned at the First Battle of Bull Run where he and his defensive troops stood as a stonewall against Union Troops.

Reverse: Sic Semper Tyrannus -- translates to "Thus Always to Tyrants". Short for the Roman Brutus's (man who killed Julius Caesar) famous quote "Sic Semper Evello Mortem Tyrannis" --Thus always I bring death to tyrants. Reverse picture rumored to be a standing Roman Brutus and the fallen individual on the ground to be Julius Caesar. Three broken lengths of chain are the Chains of Tyranny. Assume it's a backlash to the war loss and desire to "right a wrong." Somewhat of a dangerous token (perhaps offensive to some) since Lincoln's assassin said the same thing when he shot Lincoln.

Stonewall Camp:

Stonewall Camp was many things to Confederates depending how and when they served. To one small group it means those who were with Stonewall L Jackson on his reconnaissance of the Union lines when he was mortally wounded. To others.... General Jackson's command was in the Second Corps, Army of Northern VA but his troops considered themselves Stonewall's Brigade. Wherever they were at night, they always just referred to the location as Stonewall's Camp. This term was supposedly started by General Robert E. Lee who always just said to his aids "Stonewalls Camp?" when he desired Jackson's whereabouts. So, it is a reference to a meeting place.

Lincoln was elected Republican President in 1860. The Republicans controlled this office from 1860 to 1884 when Grover Cleveland ended the Republican dynasty by getting elected President in 1885. This was all made possible by the GAR (Grand Army of the Republic) which was the Union Army Veterans National organization and it was in de facto Republican Party all those years. There were many independent Confederate Veterans groups talking about how they needed a National Group heading them all up like the Union Veterans had in the GAR.

Nothing happened until April 9,1884.

The Stonewall Token:

After years of talk the Confederate Veterans Groups throughout the South called for a organizational meeting in Portsmouth VA to form, write up a Charter for and Incorporation and By-Laws and elect officers. They called for this meeting to take place April 9,1884.

They chose their National Organization to be named "Portsmouth & Norfolk Co Association of Confederate Veterans" On July 16,1884 (unknown why this exact name was chosen). The Association chose the permanent name of “Stonewall Camp Confederate Veterans of Portsmouth VA." They also had a dedication celebration the same day and HENCE the medal.

Bust on medal obverse: General Stonewall Jackson (Thomas J) Nickname earned at the First Battle of Bull Run where he and his defensive troops stood as a stonewall against Union Troops.

Reverse: Sic Semper Tyrannus -- translates to "Thus Always to Tyrants". Short for the Roman Brutus's (man who killed Julius Caesar) famous quote "Sic Semper Evello Mortem Tyrannis" --Thus always I bring death to tyrants. Reverse picture rumored to be a standing Roman Brutus and the fallen individual on the ground to be Julius Caesar. Three broken lengths of chain are the Chains of Tyranny. Assume it's a backlash to the war loss and desire to "right a wrong." Somewhat of a dangerous token (perhaps offensive to some) since Lincoln's assassin said the same thing when he shot Lincoln.

Stonewall Camp:

Stonewall Camp was many things to Confederates depending how and when they served. To one small group it means those who were with Stonewall L Jackson on his reconnaissance of the Union lines when he was mortally wounded. To others.... General Jackson's command was in the Second Corps, Army of Northern VA but his troops considered themselves Stonewall's Brigade. Wherever they were at night, they always just referred to the location as Stonewall's Camp. This term was supposedly started by General Robert E. Lee who always just said to his aids "Stonewalls Camp?" when he desired Jackson's whereabouts. So, it is a reference to a meeting place.

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