Quote from roger1942 on October 3, 2014, 8:55 amBaker is the person who wrote the book on Washington medals so the pieces that are listed are referenced by Baker numbers. The reference to a "Baker" person just means someone that actively collects Washington medals. You may want to look for this book and perhaps you might find is listed there.
Baker is the person who wrote the book on Washington medals so the pieces that are listed are referenced by Baker numbers. The reference to a "Baker" person just means someone that actively collects Washington medals. You may want to look for this book and perhaps you might find is listed there.
Quote from billycgribble on October 4, 2014, 12:41 amThe medal is around 50mm and is therefore too large to be a so-called dollar. But, it is an interesting medal. The Society of Colonial Wars commissioned the medal for the dedication of the monument. It was struck by Tiffany in New York. Pepperell commanded the colonial land forces, Warren the Royal fleet. The reverse is a reproduction of a medal made on the order of Louis XV to commemorate the building of the fortress in 1720. A few were suspended from ribbons, so holed pieces could be encountered. All were struck from brass salvaged from a cannon said to have been recovered from a French frigate, Le Celebric, blown up during the siege. The number struck was limited by the brass available. I do not know what the value might be, but you have a neat, historically interesting medal.
The medal is around 50mm and is therefore too large to be a so-called dollar. But, it is an interesting medal. The Society of Colonial Wars commissioned the medal for the dedication of the monument. It was struck by Tiffany in New York. Pepperell commanded the colonial land forces, Warren the Royal fleet. The reverse is a reproduction of a medal made on the order of Louis XV to commemorate the building of the fortress in 1720. A few were suspended from ribbons, so holed pieces could be encountered. All were struck from brass salvaged from a cannon said to have been recovered from a French frigate, Le Celebric, blown up during the siege. The number struck was limited by the brass available. I do not know what the value might be, but you have a neat, historically interesting medal.
Quote from roger1942 on October 4, 2014, 8:57 amPlease forgive me I'm new at this. I have the following metal and I really don't know what it is for and value. Normal 0 Description Round bronze medal with smooth edge and raised lip. Front has profile of two men, facing left, identified as Warren and Pepperell. Above images of men, inscrived "Society of Colonial Wars/NIL DESPERANDUM CHRISTO DUCE" Underneath busts inscrived "In Commemoration of the 150th/Anniversary of the Capture June 17, 1745" To the left of busts is a small circle with an image of a Native American man. To right is a small circle with an image of a man in colonial dress. On back of medal is a scene of a colonial town on the water surrounded by boats. Inscribed at top "LUDOVICOBURGUM FUNDATUM ET MUNITUM" underneath scene at bottom "M DCC XX" Thanks Roger Montgomery aka roger1942
Please forgive me I'm new at this. I have the following metal and I really don't know what it is for and value. Normal 0 Description Round bronze medal with smooth edge and raised lip. Front has profile of two men, facing left, identified as Warren and Pepperell. Above images of men, inscrived "Society of Colonial Wars/NIL DESPERANDUM CHRISTO DUCE" Underneath busts inscrived "In Commemoration of the 150th/Anniversary of the Capture June 17, 1745" To the left of busts is a small circle with an image of a Native American man. To right is a small circle with an image of a man in colonial dress. On back of medal is a scene of a colonial town on the water surrounded by boats. Inscribed at top "LUDOVICOBURGUM FUNDATUM ET MUNITUM" underneath scene at bottom "M DCC XX" Thanks Roger Montgomery aka roger1942
Quote from Bill Walter on October 7, 2014, 8:31 amPlease forgive me I'm new at this. I have the following metal and I really don't know what it is for and value. Normal 0 Description Round bronze medal with smooth edge and raised lip. Front has profile of two men, facing left, identified as Warren and Pepperell. Above images of men, inscrived "Society of Colonial Wars/NIL DESPERANDUM CHRISTO DUCE" Underneath busts inscrived "In Commemoration of the 150th/Anniversary of the Capture June 17, 1745" To the left of busts is a small circle with an image of a Native American man. To right is a small circle with an image of a man in colonial dress. On back of medal is a scene of a colonial town on the water surrounded by boats. Inscribed at top "LUDOVICOBURGUM FUNDATUM ET MUNITUM" underneath scene at bottom "M DCC XX" Thanks Roger Montgomery aka roger1942
1. English were in what was eventually Boston Mass all before American Revolution all loyal to King George. 2. French were at Louisbourg Cape Breton founded 1720. LUDOVICBURGUN FUNDATUM ET MUNITUM MDCCXX is Latin for "Louisbourg founded and fortified 1720" 3. England declared war on France in 1744-45. Warren and Pepperell were in Boston as the Kings representatives and governor and militia etc. Warren and Pepperell laid siege to Louisbourg in 1745. On the 49th day of the siege which was June 17, 1745 the French commander surrendered the city/Island to the English. 4. The Society of Colonial Wars was a veterans organization made up mostly of English veteran military men who fought during the English colonial period. 5. "NIL DESPERANDUM CHRISTO DUCE" is Latin for No need to fear with Christ as our leader. 6. Du Chomborn surrendered the city and Louisbourg is the city represented on the reverse. Your boats are the English Man of War and its ships. 7. Though it could be confusing whether English or American token it is indeed an American token and July 1, 1895 was an American 150th Anniversary Celebration AND dedication of The Louisbourg Monument in America. 8. If it is at least 34mm and no larger than 45mm it would definitely qualify as a So Called Dollar but it is not one as it is not listed in our reference book. As such I would not have any idea of its value but it would have to be not corroded, bent or severely worn. Value is always based on condition. I'm sure a Baker person will probably step up and help you with the possible valuation part.
Please forgive me I'm new at this. I have the following metal and I really don't know what it is for and value. Normal 0 Description Round bronze medal with smooth edge and raised lip. Front has profile of two men, facing left, identified as Warren and Pepperell. Above images of men, inscrived "Society of Colonial Wars/NIL DESPERANDUM CHRISTO DUCE" Underneath busts inscrived "In Commemoration of the 150th/Anniversary of the Capture June 17, 1745" To the left of busts is a small circle with an image of a Native American man. To right is a small circle with an image of a man in colonial dress. On back of medal is a scene of a colonial town on the water surrounded by boats. Inscribed at top "LUDOVICOBURGUM FUNDATUM ET MUNITUM" underneath scene at bottom "M DCC XX" Thanks Roger Montgomery aka roger1942
1. English were in what was eventually Boston Mass all before American Revolution all loyal to King George. 2. French were at Louisbourg Cape Breton founded 1720. LUDOVICBURGUN FUNDATUM ET MUNITUM MDCCXX is Latin for "Louisbourg founded and fortified 1720" 3. England declared war on France in 1744-45. Warren and Pepperell were in Boston as the Kings representatives and governor and militia etc. Warren and Pepperell laid siege to Louisbourg in 1745. On the 49th day of the siege which was June 17, 1745 the French commander surrendered the city/Island to the English. 4. The Society of Colonial Wars was a veterans organization made up mostly of English veteran military men who fought during the English colonial period. 5. "NIL DESPERANDUM CHRISTO DUCE" is Latin for No need to fear with Christ as our leader. 6. Du Chomborn surrendered the city and Louisbourg is the city represented on the reverse. Your boats are the English Man of War and its ships. 7. Though it could be confusing whether English or American token it is indeed an American token and July 1, 1895 was an American 150th Anniversary Celebration AND dedication of The Louisbourg Monument in America. 8. If it is at least 34mm and no larger than 45mm it would definitely qualify as a So Called Dollar but it is not one as it is not listed in our reference book. As such I would not have any idea of its value but it would have to be not corroded, bent or severely worn. Value is always based on condition. I'm sure a Baker person will probably step up and help you with the possible valuation part.
Quote from roger1942 on October 9, 2014, 10:31 amThank you for your import. The metal is not worn but needs cleaning. Who ot what is a "baker" and how do I contct them?
Thank you for your import. The metal is not worn but needs cleaning. Who ot what is a "baker" and how do I contct them?
Quote from bill on October 15, 2014, 6:35 pmHey, thanks for your comments. Discovering what types were not included in HK has helped me to better understand the reasoning behind what WAS included. Not being able to ask the original authors about their decisions, we are only left with their book. The authors have a list of eight criteria in their introduction that helps to explain what was left out, but I think it misses the mark to some extent. Hopefully my groupings within ?Examples of TYPES that were NOT included in HK? will give a different, and maybe better perspective. As far as the Blondin piece goes, there are reasons why I moved it over. Maybe someday I'll move it back. I agree with you about the corporate pieces. I only own a Bennington piece in bronze, so I cant give you any info on weights of the other metals. I do have auction catalog references, but I don't believe any weights were mentioned, In one Presidential Coin and Antique catalog, the distinction was made between a silver piece and a silveroid piece. The silveroid piece was described as being made of 45% nickel, 54%copper, 1% manganese.
Hey, thanks for your comments. Discovering what types were not included in HK has helped me to better understand the reasoning behind what WAS included. Not being able to ask the original authors about their decisions, we are only left with their book. The authors have a list of eight criteria in their introduction that helps to explain what was left out, but I think it misses the mark to some extent. Hopefully my groupings within ?Examples of TYPES that were NOT included in HK? will give a different, and maybe better perspective. As far as the Blondin piece goes, there are reasons why I moved it over. Maybe someday I'll move it back. I agree with you about the corporate pieces. I only own a Bennington piece in bronze, so I cant give you any info on weights of the other metals. I do have auction catalog references, but I don't believe any weights were mentioned, In one Presidential Coin and Antique catalog, the distinction was made between a silver piece and a silveroid piece. The silveroid piece was described as being made of 45% nickel, 54%copper, 1% manganese.